William Holland, aka Quantic, one of the most respected producer/musician/DJs bred from these fair isles is about to unleash his new LP from his new home in Colombia. His meteoric rise from a clutch of 45's on Breakin Bread, a prolific output on Tru Thoughts to a new life pursuing his love of latin music in Colombia has been a non-stop ride of insanely good genre bashing. With 11 studio LPs under his belt and a fantastic array of singles and remixes that take in everything from funk, soul, drum and bass, beats, afrofunk, descarga, cumbia etc, it's entirely evident that his magic hands and musical vision know no bounds. 2009 will see his new band, Quantic And His Combo Barbaro come to light, an eagerly anticipated project with a melting pot of UK and Colombian musicians coming together. I caught up with him to find out what's happening in his world....
words Pete Isaac - April 2009
The exciting news of your new band is what we're all talking about, can you tell us more? I put the new band together in Cali, it features some of the players I've been working with over the last two years in Cali and also Malcolm Catto on drums. The idea was to put together a band that plays a more tropical sound. That’s not to say it is a completely “latin music” band. The new record features a good selection of funk, soul, descarga and even some orchestral moments! Within these selections, I'm trying bring back some of the talent that made this music happen in the first place all those years ago.
Listen to: Quantic Barbaro 'Mambo Los Quantic'
It must be personally very exciting to be working in Colombia with these musicians. And you must be discovering so much musically. How are you developing songs there? Yes, its a privilege, I'm trying to make the most of my time here, learning a lot of things, speaking to people, investigating the wealth of culture that exists here. I now havemy studio in the house, so the house is a somewhat musical place to be. As a writer, I'm getting clearer about how I plan my music, the more and more I learn the art fromothers here, themore I can control my own thoughts and ideas. I usually lay down an initial idea with guitar or a voice, this could just be a simple guide or doodle, I do a lot of these, usually at night. Then, in the light of day, away from the presence of whiskey, I scan through, find the good bits and try to arrange them on to instruments I feel suitable for the sound I want. At the moment I'm trying to record everything live in the same room, I think the sound is richer for it and you can here the dialogue between the different musicians, this is what makes music interesting.
As a relative unknown in Colombia, was it easy to make contact with people like Alfredo Linares and get to work with them? And how do they find the experience of translating old school cumbia, descarga, plena etc into the modern fusions that you are creating? Well, most of these guys are kind, open minded and welcome my pigeon Spanish enthusiasm. Alfredo has been especially marvellous, he's such a kind person. In general, sometimes there is afight to get people back to the old sound. There is a culture of “new is better” in Colombia, so getting people to replay older styles can be difficult. I'd say most players I'm working with and continue to work with, do get it and that’s the reason we're playing together. People are open to new ideas or new forms of interpreting older forms, but the tricky part is explaining what you want! It's also difficult, because what looks good on paper often doesn't sound good on tape and the best moments in my recordings were unplanned and a part of the moment.
When can we expect a UK appearance of the new band? I'm planning a tour for late August with Alfredo, Kabir of Panama & Malcolm Catto amongst others.
Life must be so enriching and broadening in Colombia, yet the common perception here is that it's a dangerous place. How's it been immersing yourself in the culture there? Like all less “comfortable” travel destinations there are always some places you shouldn't go. Cali was a dangerous place in 80s and in some parts still is, but normal life still continues. My experiences have been very positive, there have been problems, but I believe that if you are sensible and respectful, you're doing the best you can. I'd say the main day to day problem is language, I'm learning spanish as I go, so everyday is a learning process. It’s easy to order food and find addresses but the more expressive parts of language like describing music or art still evade me. Over the last year, I've been taking various excursions, often by car, to the north of country, there the culture is very different to Cali. In short, I'd say I'm very content to be living in the birthplace of Cumbia.
Listen to: Flowering Inferno 'Make Dub...'
Is DJing taking a back seat these days? Or is this part of your creative process that directly influences what you try to create live? And what can we expect to hear at your Bristol show? Not so much, I still DJ a lot, maybe not so much as before. I'm still finding a lot of interesting records, so it’s always a pleasure to showcase what I have found. I am definitely playing more in the States as I'm geographically closer. I also play on a regular basis in Cali. Records, on the whole, are still my method to learn. You can learn things from records that you cannot learn in a university or college. There is music that has been long forgotten or thrown aside by the mainstream ear. Records very much influence my creative process, they inspire me, inform me and most of all demonstrate to me the various tones and colours you can create. In Bristol, the show will very much depend on what music I have found in that month. I'm probably going to be in Panama and Barranquilla for a bit before then. I'll also be playing a lot of tracks from the new record and the Flowering Inferno record.
It's obvious that you are not afraid of new paths. So where next after Colombia? Are there any other countries or cultures you are hoping to explore musically? Well, a fellow Englishman living in Cali described trying to leave Cali very well to me. He said its like trying to leave a lukewarm bath, you know you have to but you just want a little more time. I think it’s been like that for many people who have spent a lifetime in Cali. I do love it here but I would like to eventually live in a location where it is a little easier to operate. It is very hard to obtain a lot of things here, like tape for the studio, good instruments... I can see myself having problems with that. But, lets see what the future holds.
What other plans have you got for 2009? I'm working on the second flowering inferno album, hopefully should be done in the next few months and after that, tour! tour! tour!
Quantic & His Combo Barbaro
With Mr. Holland's new and utterly exciting new LP due this summer, here's a little teaser of the film that B+ has made documenting the making of the LP in Colombia.
A
one man music revolution Interview with words: Pete Isaac & Griff - May 2007
One of the
greatest strengths of British culture is our ability to absorb what we
like from other cultures and turn it into something uniquely our own.
From curries to bungalow's, the game of polo...even the humble potato.
On the musical front individuals such as Chris Blackwell from Island Records,
Jerry Dammers of the Specials and Two Tone, Joe Strummer and Mick Jones
of the Clash are etched in musical legend now for taking music from around
the world and making it more British than marmalade (which incidentally
came originally from Spain!) Continuing this fine tradition Will Holland
aka Quantic burst onto the music scene at the turn of the century and
since then has been astoundingly prolific and influential, blending afrofunk
and latin influences into dancefloor music for the 21st century. He has
also been an integral part of the success of Tru Thoughts Records, which
has become one of the most influential UK underground independent record
labels this decade. He's held in great regard by everyone and we play
pretty much everything he releases!
After
a couple of 45's for London's Breakin Bread, the first 12" for Tru Thoughts,
'Life in the rain' dropped in 2001. It was instantly lapped up at Jelly
Jazz . A guest DJ booking soon followed and Quantic was projected into the
funkyjazzybeaty UK music scene at quite a pace. And it wasn't just Jelly
that jumped on the Quantic sound . Pretty much instantaneously DJs across
the country recognised the breathtaking and raw talent that this 23 year
old had lurking within him. Two solo LPs followed very quickly which cemented
his standing before his eager production desires led the birth of his live
project The Quantic Soul Orchestra. The band is a firm favourite on the
festival circuit as well as in clubland, with his recent tour with soul
legend Spanky Wilson being a particular success. Right now
he has completed eight full length LPs in his various guises as well as
many 12's and a dizzy array of remixes for acts all over the world. And
with these remixes, he's managed to avoid any 'quantic by numbers' scenarios,
you know it's a Quantic mix but there's always originality and an obvious
dedication to the track in question. He's recently
relocated to Colombia to collaborate with musicians over there which is
very exciting. This step is not surprising considering his direction of
late. For a while now his DJ sets have been heavy with Latin, Plena, Cumbia
and Salsa and these sounds sit perfectly with his particular feel in production.
I can certainly foresee a Quantic Latin live project in the near future,
and I'd expect it to be the most forward thinking latin act out there.70, 80, 90+
LP's? That could well be the sum total of Will Holland's output by the
time he's exhausted his ideas, if indeed he ever does. He's certainly
on track to rival all the great prolific artists who rack up dozens of
LP's in their career, and it's the sign of a true artist to do so. Just
like a painter who finds it impossible not to get as much down on canvas
as possible.
Is Quantic the Picasso of modern music? Could be. So after
his many trips to Jelly Jazz as a DJ and his 4 or 5 live shows he's played
for us over the years, it's definitely time to grab him for an interview
and find out what's going on inside his head.Hola
Senor Holland...
Let's start out down a psychoanalysis tack. Tell us about your childhood!
Seriously though you're obviously from a musical family so what were you
into musically as you grew up and what did you start learning to play
first? I
grew up in a very musical house, my father left the house most evenings
to play guitar and banjo in different folk groups uptown, meanwhile my
mother re-strung violin bows and sent me and my two twin sisters to piano
lessons. Now, I think my sisters faired alot better than I did on piano,
they have a greater understanding of music and spent alot of time singing
with my mother. Meanwhile, I was more interested in computers and playing
with the keyboards my father would bring back from the college where he
worked. I don't think I experienced a particurlaly musically educative
childhood but by simply being exposed to my parents musical tastes and
record collection I guess I have been affected.
You were so absurdly young when you arrived on the scene I don't even
know if you had time to go to college! :-) Have you studied music at all? When
I was 12 or 13, my father bought me an electric guitar and I immediatly
started learning any Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath or Nirvana song I could
lay my hands on. At 16 my mother enrolled me in a National Diploma of
Audio Production at the local college. I was there for 2 years, it was
a very unique experienced and a great oppotunity to learn on equipment
in my own time. At 18, I did another 2 years in a HND, which I ended up
failing, pretty much around the same time I got some demos signed to Breakin
Bread records.
You're best known for playing guitar with QSO but I'm not even sure what
other instruments you play? Nothing
really that well, guitar is useful because it is something I'm very familiar
with, but I am by no means a virtuoso, more an enthusiast. I have also
played Saxophone, Bass, Gaita, Marimba, Sitar and Percussion on past recordings.
What was your first experience of recording and at what age?My
very first recordings were with school bands in my teenage-hood. After
that, my first release was 'Fresh Rhythm' on London's Breakin Bread records,
that was around 2000.
How did you get into music production... did you have any mentors/teachers
or was it just a hands-on get stuck in, DIY approach? My
father worked as a computer programmer and mechanical engineer. He would
always have different computers around the house. My first experiences
with computer production was with him using a rudimentary synthesizer
on a BBC micro. Then followed experiments on Archimedes, Atari ST, PC
then Mac. I have never really been into samplers. When I was 15/16 I was
making a lot of tracks in a cut and paste fashion. Sampling the household
piano and going out to charity shops looking for beats and loops. After
a while I started working with my friends TV company in London, we would
send them beats and they would pay us per minute. That was the first time
I made some kind of income from music. I was also doing anything I could
to gain experience, working on college plays, filming and editing video,
sneaking into the photo labs & recording bands.
Did you always know you wanted to be a professional musician? Did you
have a plan B? Well, I still
don't consider myself much of a professional. Alot of my methods don't
really go down that well with people who consider themselves to be professional.
I have never really had a plan B, I knew I wanted to work with music,
video or art but had much luck at finding a proper job in this field.
It's just something that was a longtime hobby and now has become into
a lifestyle. When you work with independant music, it is not a career,
it is a way of life. Ask any DJ girlfriend or wife!!!
It's
quite funny looking at the catalogue of Tru Thoughts because you arrive
at TRU014 and then pretty much take over in no time at all. Tell us about
how you first hooked up with Tru Thoughts! Well, the
good thing with Tru Thoughts & Rob Luis's A&R taste in particular is that
they are open to ideas and not afraid to take risks. They have always
been very accepting of my music and encouraged me to work with different
styles and guest artists. They also hooked me up with Alice Russell, which
was a good move. It was almost like I had always flirted with musical
projects but Tru Thoughts gave me a definite project on which to focus
on. Rob Luis would regurlaly send me CDs of new music to check and that
influenced me alot. To be honest, at that point, I was just glad for the
attention my music was gathering because I still wasn't that convinced
that it was something that people might want to hear.
It seems to have been the perfect breeding ground for talent and a useful
springboard for your career! At what point did you realise that you were
going to be able to pursue music as a full time career? By the time
I released 'Apricot Morning' I was working full time at a Forensic Science
Laboratory in Birmingham. I would spend my time working there, buy records
in my lunchbreak and at night work on music in my bedroom. After some
discussion with Russ Porter of The limp Twins (a project I was also working
on at that time) we decided to move down to Brighton. At that point, I
took a small advance from Tru Thoughts & I was able to get by living in
a shared house with Russ and members of the later to be formed QSO.
On
a completely different tack... one of the reasons you've been able to
get out and promote your own music so successfully is that you are also
an annoyingly excellent DJ as well. :-) Were you always into the DJing
side of things or did that develop after you had music to promote? Russ Porter
and I used to DJ in Worcester on a wednesday night. I was collecting alot
of funk 45s and northern soul, Russ was into Reggae and Ska so it was
a nice combination. When I moved to Brighton I started Dj'ing at the Tru
Thoughts' night 'Phonic Hoop' with Rob Luis. That was good because I learnt
about programming the night and got regular practice as I didn't have
record decks at home. As I listened at those nights, I would go home all
inspired and make new music, release that music and as a result get more
DJ gigs, it was quite expotential.
Do you prefer playing live in the band or DJing? Both
are good. I prefer feeling the crowd from the stage and playing guitar,
I feel like I am more deserving of the applause. when dj'ing, it sometimes
feels a little false to be winning peoples appreciation using other people's
music, but I guess that's the format of modern live music.
The last time I saw you DJ at Jelly Jazz, you achieved an almost shamanic
connection with the crowd having everyone completely absorbed in the music
whilst skipping between colombian cumbia, eastern european folk, north
african jazz and modern club beats. If you're in front of a crowd that's
just not getting it, do you change the set or just carry on until they
do? Well,
for me, the worst thing is a crowd that doesn't know what it wants or
has some kind of pre-conceived idea of what you've come to do. The best
thing is when an audience is open minded and willing to try new things.
Music is universal and not just one thing, the best nights for me have
been when people recognize that genres are just a method of record catogorisation
and do not represent barriers when listening to and dancing to an evening
of music. That's not to say I play sporadically, I try to give my sets
a definite theme and research the music I play intensely.
You DJ all over the world so where are your favourite places in the world
to play at the moment? I love Budapest,
Copenhagen, Jelly Jazz (of course!) and now I have residencies in Paris,
London, Barcelona & Cali, Colombia.
We
feel that the British club scene seems to have lost it's energy of late...
do you agree and what would you put that down to? I think people
have got back into live music, there as has ben a resurgence of guitar
band culture, which I think is a good thing if it means people are experiencing
lie music again. This is also a good thing for us DJ's who play more 'musical'
dance music, because I feel people are getting more responsive to more
natural sounding records.
So
I guess we associated you mostly with afrofunk to start with, but then
you went to Puerto Rico with Nicodemus and a distinctly latin flavour
started seeping into your DJ sets and your own music. You mentioned to
me at one stage that you'd been learning as much as you could about latin
rhythms from a lot of the older musicians in Puerto Rico. Tell us a little
more about that experience! I spent alot
of time in Puerto Rico, educating myself through it's residents and the
rich plethora of records that were to be found. Most importantly, I realised
how all encompassing the music there is. Having been interested in both
European music and that of the Middle East and Africa, it was amazing
to discover something that contained all these elements. It was also great
to find a music where it is all about dancing, something I've always tried
to project in my own music. Latin music encompasses more than 'Salsa',
something mainly associated with either Buena Vista Social club or middle
aged couples looking for a way to spice up their dwindling relationship.
Guagauncos, Gaujiras, Plenas, Cumbias, Porros, Gaitas, Danzon, all play
as much a part in modern popular culture as hiphop and dance music as
say, Funk, Samba, Jazz and Rock. I think for people in the UK and Europe
in general, the roots are just not so accessible as if you are living
amongst Puerto Ricans in New York or Cubans in Miami.You
are more likely to hear latin elements in a Shakira, War or Doors record
before hearing that of likes of Cachao or Chano Poso. But just as Hiphop
in time brought forward the roots of it's own making, Jazz, Bebop, Soul,
I hope our scene will gradually excavate that which you can barely see from
the surface, but is the foundation on which we stand.
We knew you'd been spending time there but I was surprised earlier this
year to hear from Nicodemus that you'd decided to move out to Colombia!
What's prompted that move? What is it about Colombia in particular that
you like? Cali,
Colombia, it is the city paved with records, delightful people & a story
for every drop of aguadiente you can drink. Colombians are the cross bearers
of Salsa Dura, you can see children singing songs here that only the owners
of the rarest record collections know of elsewhere. It is a particulaly
unique place for that reason and many others. I was also quite sick of
spending time recording in the Puerto Rico, Colombia and Panama recording
studios and returning to mix in the UK. It had been both expensive and
quite hard to keep doing with all the shows with the QSO too. So I decided
to move all my studio stuff here and work on things constantly in this
enviroment, which has been quite fruitful so far.
Like Sidestepper before you I presume you will be turning your talents
to working with Colombian musicians. What are you hoping to achieve musically
out there? I'm
just doing what I have always done, however, things are a lot easier to
do over here. Musicians are plentiful and it is a great landing pad to
travel around Latin America and the Carribean. I guess more than anything,
change is what was needed. I was getting very stale musically speaking
in Brighton and I wanted to challenge myself with a new enviroment.
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What does the future hold for Quantic? Anything particular projects in
the pipeline that you can share with us? The
next QSO album is in the making, should be out in a few months, and there
is a Rarest Funk volume 2 coming out on Jazzman and expect a Spanky Wilson
Live DVD too.Muchas
Gracias to Will for taking the time out from buying records and making music
in Colombia to do this interview. Of course, Jelly Jazz will have him down
to spin or play live at the next available opportunity!